This Ray hate will not stand! (TBH it's not Ray hate, I still love him, there is no one like him. I'm still a Peater, just a heretical Peater. "DO YOU KNOW THE TRUE RAY PEAT?")
Yeah, keto messed up my whole family. Especially me, since I am skinny by nature and I was just doing it in solidarity with my curvy wife and (then) obese son. I lost muscle (which I do not have to spare) and I think we might have lost brain power too.
My son did later lose the weight—150 lbs, and now looks just like me—and he did it purely with calories in/calories out. He just started eating 1,000 a day or less and the weight poured off of him.
What's more, his metabolism appeared to reset. He now seems to have the metabolism of a skinny person.
So many factors and they all seem to be ways you can f*ck yourself up LOL. The final criterion has to just be "what works"! And no one can figure that out except YOU. Mostly it's this a priori prescriptionism that I am trying to excise from my own thinking.
Like the a priori prescriptionism of someone I know who keeps her obese daughter, “At your weight, you NEED to eat at least 1700 calories per day.” Like #@$& she does! She’s 300 pounds!
What I got my my brief foray into bioenergetic coaching is that sometimes, CICO is the only way to get the weight off. But then there are people who end up on a chronic yo-yo. So... IDK. Good luck is pretty much all I can say to people. Oh and seed oils are toxic sludge.
Yeah, Judy is finally coming around on seed oils. She is naturally skeptical, so when I say that canola is “surplus tank lubricant,” her personality says to be skeptical. But she is finally getting there.
As far as CICO, I know it seems like it should slow metabolisms (evolutionarily, that would make sense, I guess). But it sure didn’t in my son!
I occasionally followed your Peatery posts on twitter, and at times wanted to say something like what you have written here: that this all seemed too complicated and an unhealthy (psychic) relationship to have with food. Why not just eat a good variety of real foods, including some meat, follow the fasts of the Church, but seek salvation in Christ.
On the other hand, I'm also 20 pounds overweight. So let's see if, during the apostle's fast, I can do something about that.
"this N=1gga"
Well done. 😄
I will not stand for this Ray Peat hate!
This Ray hate will not stand! (TBH it's not Ray hate, I still love him, there is no one like him. I'm still a Peater, just a heretical Peater. "DO YOU KNOW THE TRUE RAY PEAT?")
Yeah, keto messed up my whole family. Especially me, since I am skinny by nature and I was just doing it in solidarity with my curvy wife and (then) obese son. I lost muscle (which I do not have to spare) and I think we might have lost brain power too.
My son did later lose the weight—150 lbs, and now looks just like me—and he did it purely with calories in/calories out. He just started eating 1,000 a day or less and the weight poured off of him.
What's more, his metabolism appeared to reset. He now seems to have the metabolism of a skinny person.
So many factors and they all seem to be ways you can f*ck yourself up LOL. The final criterion has to just be "what works"! And no one can figure that out except YOU. Mostly it's this a priori prescriptionism that I am trying to excise from my own thinking.
Like the a priori prescriptionism of someone I know who keeps her obese daughter, “At your weight, you NEED to eat at least 1700 calories per day.” Like #@$& she does! She’s 300 pounds!
What I got my my brief foray into bioenergetic coaching is that sometimes, CICO is the only way to get the weight off. But then there are people who end up on a chronic yo-yo. So... IDK. Good luck is pretty much all I can say to people. Oh and seed oils are toxic sludge.
Yeah, Judy is finally coming around on seed oils. She is naturally skeptical, so when I say that canola is “surplus tank lubricant,” her personality says to be skeptical. But she is finally getting there.
As far as CICO, I know it seems like it should slow metabolisms (evolutionarily, that would make sense, I guess). But it sure didn’t in my son!
What works, works! There's no arguing with it. Good on him.
I suggest taking up pipe smoking. It lowers stress and induces contemplation.
This is sage advice.
I occasionally followed your Peatery posts on twitter, and at times wanted to say something like what you have written here: that this all seemed too complicated and an unhealthy (psychic) relationship to have with food. Why not just eat a good variety of real foods, including some meat, follow the fasts of the Church, but seek salvation in Christ.
On the other hand, I'm also 20 pounds overweight. So let's see if, during the apostle's fast, I can do something about that.
Amen, sister! So glad to hear it. This is the way.