I like to piss off the normies by pointing out that the Magi were astrologers—and how, well, that actually worked out pretty great for them. And this also gets into how, biblically, *divination* refers quite specifically to the practice of attempting to contact unclean spirits. It's not just a catch-all for whatever people find spooky.
Now, if you wanna see them *really* perturbed, bring up the Tarot. . . .
"to what hungers or hurts or raptures of your soul is that belief or practice a human attempt to respond?"
Absolutely: we have to take the phenomenological perspective if we want to understand anything at all about people and their beliefs. If folk were more self-aware of how they came to their own current beliefs, they would be able to see how deeply stupid they're being to imagine that rationalistic disputation is gonna help or solve anything.
Also, are you in Britain? (I hit play on your reading.) And if you are, is that gonna make it harder for you to send that SD card to Texas? Haha.
Aha, thank you brother, and I agree with you so much on the fruitlessness of rational disputation... could you come and have a word with the Orthobros? I joke but of course, I have to listen to them as well and not condemn them!
On the British thing, nope -- I'm just a Yank who's lived in the UK and has been listening to the great thespians of Albion since I was a wee bairnie.
A "love the sinner, hate the sin" approach is the best I've got for Orthobros. We can *listen* to their ravings, but I'm not sure they're capable of what we'd call dialogue.
I like to piss off the normies by pointing out that the Magi were astrologers—and how, well, that actually worked out pretty great for them. And this also gets into how, biblically, *divination* refers quite specifically to the practice of attempting to contact unclean spirits. It's not just a catch-all for whatever people find spooky.
Now, if you wanna see them *really* perturbed, bring up the Tarot. . . .
"to what hungers or hurts or raptures of your soul is that belief or practice a human attempt to respond?"
Absolutely: we have to take the phenomenological perspective if we want to understand anything at all about people and their beliefs. If folk were more self-aware of how they came to their own current beliefs, they would be able to see how deeply stupid they're being to imagine that rationalistic disputation is gonna help or solve anything.
Also, are you in Britain? (I hit play on your reading.) And if you are, is that gonna make it harder for you to send that SD card to Texas? Haha.
Aha, thank you brother, and I agree with you so much on the fruitlessness of rational disputation... could you come and have a word with the Orthobros? I joke but of course, I have to listen to them as well and not condemn them!
On the British thing, nope -- I'm just a Yank who's lived in the UK and has been listening to the great thespians of Albion since I was a wee bairnie.
A "love the sinner, hate the sin" approach is the best I've got for Orthobros. We can *listen* to their ravings, but I'm not sure they're capable of what we'd call dialogue.