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John Carr's avatar

As humans, we are the envy of angels: flesh joined to spirit. A miracle!

Ross Arlen Tieken's avatar

Madly beautiful. Well spoken

Dominic de Souza's avatar

"Her spirit would pass on to another life, she would live again, all ills would be forgotten, the journey would continue." Not sure that's how it works outside the New Age movement. The very point of reincarnation is to excise and exercise karma and it's effects. Without Christ, the law evinced us of a doom spiral. It was Christ and the resurrection that brought life and hope to this cycle of rebirth and sin-management. Finally humans can escape the cycle of ouroborous and resurrection. Reincarnation without resurection into God was the doom of the ancient world, and the context in which Christ preached and the Hebrews/views lived, I'm convinced.

Loup des Abeilles's avatar

I mean, my point is really that reincarnation itself puts the lie to the fundamental character of embodied life.

Dominic de Souza's avatar

I see where you're going, but I don't think it's true. You can live in a state of chronic dissasociation from the gift of present life, but no one agrees that's a good idea. Better to throw ourselves fully into each experience because each is intended and desired from before birth, both by self and as part of God's plan of progressive theosis through experienced ascent.

Loup des Abeilles's avatar

But to believe that this body is one garment of many is to believe, in the end, that it is fundamentally disposable, that it is not "who we are." "Who we are" is discarnate soul, in this view. To be double-minded -- i.e., to believe fundamentally that the body is irrelevant, but to believe that we must in this life think and behave as if it were, is not a good thing.

Dominic de Souza's avatar

That's not how I put it together. We grow out of childhood into adulthood. Our childhood is integrated within the greater reality of our total experience, and not disposed of. Many Christians already live a double-minded life, which is horribly dissonant to our soul and cognition: Christians already live as if this is a journey we 'endure' because 'heaven is our true home'. I don't think that's true. Many Christians are functionally gnostic with our faith, already living as if this life is irrelevant.

Like the mystics, I see that all the way to Heaven is Heaven, and every step in the journey integrates all previous steps. The 'higher' we ascend in the process of theosis, the more of creation we participate in. St Anthony of Egypt was compelled to grapple with this in a vision where a great figure swatted down many figures that sought to rise to the heavens, compelling them to return to embodied human living because they had not learned the lessons of this stage in the theosis journey. Every life that one returns to is an opportunity to fully embrace the experience and challenge of 1) rediscovery of self, 2) discovery of others and how to serve them, 3) discovery of God as the life within all bringing all things to good.

Loup des Abeilles's avatar

With respect, you're not addressing my central point. Also, this writing smells a little AI -- are you generating responses with AI?

Dominic de Souza's avatar

fwiw, I liked your post, and it's central point. I'm addressing something tangential that doesn't seem true, and you were anchored on.

As much as I appreciate AI, I never use it for comments. :)

Astrotheosis's avatar

The etymology of animality comes from the latin, anima. Soul itself, is contained in the living breath of the animal as living word.

I often find my senses, my scentses, contain primordial keys to divine freedom found in passion. When I am in the wild untouched mountains, feeling the winds of God upon my skin.

Blessed be the Venusian layers of life, & may that guide us home, into our bodies, into our souls.

Writing from the mountains above Santa Barbara :)

E. Thomas's avatar

Beautiful, simply beautiful.