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> Sexual renunciation is unnatural.

Christianity is supposed to be unnatural in many regards. Christ's death is natural; His resurrection and Ascension are unnatural. Sacraments all have unnatural components; it's what separates Baptism from merely washing one's brow. The whole of Christianity rests on the realness of the unnatural parts of human existence. If humans were meant to be only natural in all things, then what purpose would the Divine serve?

Even atheists, like Richard Dawkins in 'The Selfish Gene,' can recognize forces that motivate humans away from purely natural, genetic coding. Whatever that something is, it isn't clear that it's natural, nor is it clear being unnatural would make it maladaptive.

Regardless of one's view of celibacy and/or asceticism, calling something "unnatural" isn't a sound argument against the thing, especially when it comes to Christianity.

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This is really two essays from my perspective. Good job on the first regarding Fr. Rose, but the second which seems to imply there is no Divine Eros is problematic. There are deeply embodied and fully intimate modes of experiencing divinity and sacredness which are based on renunciation. There is no reason a christian ascetic should't also be able experience a kinda of preview of the unity with God. The ramifications of glorification involving the full body are not as developed in christian asceticism as they should be. Yet, the eros that allowed St. Symeon to say that "Christ is my penis" (I'm not kidding), is not to be brushed off as mere repression but rather a completion of the meaning of eros:

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For while we become many members He remains one and indivisible, and each part is the whole Christ himself. 160  And so thus you well know that both my finger and my penis are Christ. Do you tremble or feel ashamed? But God was not ashamed to become like you, yet you are ashamed to become like Him? “I am not ashamed to become like Him. 165  But in saying He is like a shameful member I suspect that you speak blasphemy.” So then, you suspected badly, for there are no shameful members! They are hidden members of Christ, for they are covered, and on account of this they are more revered than the rest, (1 Cor 12.23) 170  as hidden members of Him Who is hidden, they are unseen by all, from Whom seed is given in divine communion, (1 Jn 3.9) awesomely deified in the divine form, from the whole divinity itself, for He is God entire, He Who is united with us, oh spine-chilling mystery! 175  And thus it truly becomes a marriage, unutterable and divine: He unites with each one, and again I shall say these things for pleasure, and each is made one with the Master. And so if you will put the whole Christ on your entire flesh, (Rom 13.14) then you shall understand everything that I say and have no cause for shame.

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If only monasticism was understood as aimed at this kind of deep eros with Christ! More than that, this kind of 'body positivity' certainly would be good to apply when thinking of sexuality in general. Also I want to point out the renunciation can indeed also be done in a body-positive way. You seem to paint it as inherently negative towards the body.

So while I agree that orthodoxy needs to emphasize spiritual eros more and understand that physical eros (eros expressed sexually) is a REAL mode of participation in divine eros, I also think you are flat out wrong to state that it is a form of non-christian repression to be ascetical. This is very harmful to spread. When a person is filled with this kind of joy, there is no sense of lack, the body is indeed involved in an embodied pervasion of the Spirit which mimics perichoresis. This is TOTAL eros of mind, spirit, and body, not a mere suppression or repression of the body. It is a fulfillment of what sex participates in (and note as I write below that sex also has a 'high ceiling' of potential). This exists, I know of it, I know of other people who know of it, and it is not 'sexual' in the normal sense of the word. It is supra-sexual.

To reiterate, this is not a denigration of marriage either. Sexuality can also participate fully in this kind of experience as well, but this means it must be elevated beyond the merely physical again to include the full perichoresis participating in the union of Christ and his Church (i.e. ALL reality).

So the way forwards as I see it is NOT to decide renunciation is for self-loathing and world-loathing gnostics, but to bring renunciation fully into its true meaning which is embarrassing for the many, but true nonetheless: marriage with Christ in all its implications. Marriage of ALL of one's being including the body (nonsexual, non-lustful eros). Then renunciates are simply those who focus on this only, whereas those who get married focus on union with each and union with Christ. Those in marriage are participating in 'theosis with world and Christ' which is critical as well since the World Song includes all of creation united in a beautiful whole. Those renunciates are focusing on 'theosis with Christ' and letting their 'theosis with the world' develop as the result of it rather than so to speak 'developing concurrently'. So, I agree we don't denigrate marriage either. Can you agree to stop denigrating renunciates?

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